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They may all get the same tires but I think it will better for some than others.It comes down to who leads development.It will not go as fast as when there were competing manufacturers but it will continue.I would think that Rossi and Stoner will probably lead development.But I'm sure Puig will want Pedrosa to have a say in it.Any riders that have a say will push it towards tires they like,not what would be easier for everyone to get on with.I read where Edwards said since Rossi likes tires of a much harder construction than the other riders that if Rossi leads development the other riders are pretty much screwed.It will end up being better for some than others.And the racing will not be closer.Back markers will still be there.Mid packers in their spot.I hope it tightens up the field but I doubt it will.
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Default 13.10.2008, 18:26

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They may all get the same tires but I think it will better for some than others.It comes down to who leads development.It will not go as fast as when there were competing manufacturers but it will continue.I would think that Rossi and Stoner will probably lead development.But I'm sure Puig will want Pedrosa to have a say in it.Any riders that have a say will push it towards tires they like,not what would be easier for everyone to get on with.I read where Edwards said since Rossi likes tires of a much harder construction than the other riders that if Rossi leads development the other riders are pretty much screwed.It will end up being better for some than others.And the racing will not be closer.Back markers will still be there.Mid packers in their spot.I hope it tightens up the field but I doubt it will.

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could not say it anybetter! u summed it up well...

I read that colin comment too...



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They may all get the same tires but I think it will better for some than others.It comes down to who leads development.It will not go as fast as when there were competing manufacturers but it will continue.I would think that Rossi and Stoner will probably lead development.But I'm sure Puig will want Pedrosa to have a say in it.Any riders that have a say will push it towards tires they like,not what would be easier for everyone to get on with.I read where Edwards said since Rossi likes tires of a much harder construction than the other riders that if Rossi leads development the other riders are pretty much screwed.It will end up being better for some than others.And the racing will not be closer.Back markers will still be there.Mid packers in their spot.I hope it tightens up the field but I doubt it will.
It will be interesting to watch unfold, is it definitely going to be just like WSBK have with Pirelli, turn up with 3 compounds each week and you just have to make do? Or will each manufacturer / rider be able to develop their own tyre like they are now, I think that would be too difficult to police and would raise the same kind of equality questions they are trying to quash with the rule in the first place...

Likewise if there is only 3 options, depending on the variation in the selection, riders might complain that the tyres are completely unsuitable for their style. It's been documented many times over the past few seasons how much difference there is between a Rossi tyre and a Pedrosa tyre for example, I really hope it makes for great racing but as yet I'm not convinced.


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Default 13.10.2008, 20:07

No more competition between Michelin and Bridge. Will it mean lower quality?
Will they maintain the use of qualif tyres?

I can see at least one big positive point: it will be a new challenge for Valentino, and we know that he needs some changes to keep his motivation.
Next year he'll show everyone that he is the best, even if the other riders use the same rubbers.
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Default 13.10.2008, 20:11

good call! brno about vales motivation...

I think they will for sure get rid of the qualifiertyres and if only to save on tires...



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Default Ducati MotoGP team has been negotiating with the French Michelin - 14.10.2008, 12:03

Rossi said that he was simply shocked to learn that in the Ducati MotoGP team has been negotiating with the French Michelin that their tires to supply all of its motorcycles in order to avoid the input of the new year rule "one producer."

Ducati is seriously discussing the possibility of non-cooperation with Bridgestone and transplantation of all four of its pilots at Michelin. True, this would be little to the "one manufacturer did not come into force. To achieve this, it is necessary that at least 40% of all the pilots were documented willingness to go to another manufacturer of rubber than a primary, which will determine the direction MotoGP. It is expected that this very company-one will be the Japanese manufacturer Bridgestone.

The main pilot Ducati Australian Casey Stoner (Casey Stoner) is moved to Bridgestone in 2007, a year later followed his example and Russia. Since then the credibility of Bridgestone brand has grown immeasurably, and vice versa Michelin dropped. Therefore, Russia was very surprised to learn that Stoner, who all appeared to be a perfectly with Bridgestone, it was with her, he won his first chempionsky title in 2007, suddenly said the willingness to commit the opposite transition.

"I was very surprised. I thought that this is simply impossible," said Rossi.

Recall, Dorna Sports, a company-owned commercial rights to the series of MotoGP, promised to announce who will provide pilots "royal" class rubber in 2009 to 18 October


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Default 14.10.2008, 12:21

What will be funny is if it's true and BStone win the one tyre rule, Casey might get all the crap tyres if he upsets the BStone bosses.

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In a desperate attempt to be far less dull in 2009 the 'free and open' MotoGP championship has monogamised their tyre partnership by making Bridgestone the one and only supplier for next season.


Piss off and don't come back. It's a cheery goodbye to the Michelin man

As well as having grid sizes smaller and more pathetic looking than Pedrosa's pet Chihuahua the MotoGP racing in '08 was often diluted yet more by the huge difference in tyre performances. Something needed to be done so the excellent Dorna decided, using their famed mystic potato for guidance, that a single tyre manufacturer was needed for next season and, in the interests of a 'free and open' competition, only allowed Bridgestone to bid for the franchise.


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"Everybody hates the French" confirmed an insider who didn't mind stating the obvious "Even the French hate the French - they'd have a civil war if they weren't such cowards. Anyway we decided, after consulting the mystic potato obviously, that we'd teach the Frogs a lesson by not allowing Michelin to bid….although we did briefly consider choosing Michelin just to see Pedrosa's face! But in the end we all decided that we'd feel a little guilty if they were to finding him hanging by a rope because of our decision. So in the end we stuck to our annoying guns and make Bridgestone our winners. We're happy with our choice - and by unfairly choosing a winner made us feel like we worked in Formula 1".

The net losers of this move surely must be Team Mini-Pedrosa. The Spaniard and his close friends managed to rattle the woks of nearly every top noodle at HRC by demanding he'd be allowed to switch from Michelin to Bridgestone last month. If only he'd have waited…


Dani's Michelins. Popular to the end.

"Thumbelina and his old boyfriend were never popular around these parts anyway" admitted one of Hayden's crew. "But after this tyre fiasco they're both now less popular even than that guy who keeps pushing all the flat Lego pieces together tightly."

So, we all laughed when World Superbike did it….but now MotoGP has followed. Can we expect WSBK racing in 2009? Let's hope so.






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To achieve this, it is necessary that at least 40% of all the pilots were documented willingness to go to another manufacturer of rubber than a primary, which will determine the direction MotoGP. It is expected that this very company-one will be the Japanese manufacturer Bridgestone. "I was very surprised. I thought that this is simply impossible," said Rossi.


So does the "40%" mean even if Bridgestone is chosen to be the exclusive tire supplier but there is 40% of the riders who do not want Bridgestone then the "one" tire rule will not take effect?

Does someone know the answer?




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So does the "40%" mean even if Bridgestone is chosen to be the exclusive tire supplier but there is 40% of the riders who do not want Bridgestone then the "one" tire rule will not take effect?

Does someone know the answer?

No, the rule is signed, sealed, delivered as far as that is concerned, and it's going to be Bridgestone. The 40% talk was beforehand, not enough teams were prepared to run Michelin to get the required 40%, so the rule went ahead as planned.

Hope that clears it up for you Jossi


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Default 18.10.2008, 08:30

can't wait for the rule to be confirmed..

reportedly it will be today..

brt ES said there was a meeting this morning

and rumors are things like

20 tires only
no qualis
only 1 raintire....


yesterday was a meeting of the riders.... and they weren't too happy..



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