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Default 27.06.2008, 05:57

Actually, the big hint is what the lap times were this time last year... I have no idea... is KC going faster than last year? Is Valentino?

The only area where I faintly disagree, Lib, is that we have so often seen VR fart around in FP and QP, do ok, but nothing spectacular, but sure enough, at the last, JB comes up with perfection. Rossi then can say "he got good rhythm" and the rest is history.

Obviously VR's biggest obstacle is the new tyres... but we know VR is flexible and smart enough to conquer this the closer he gets to the actual race.

Oh, and of course, the other dark horse in all of this... The new improved Pedrosita... he might have a paella or two up his sleeve.



It's taken one and a half racing seasons, but finally, Rossi has broken Stoner... and smashed him like a guitar!

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Default 27.06.2008, 07:37

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Actually, the big hint is what the lap times were this time last year... I have no idea... is KC going faster than last year? Is Valentino?
Assen 2007 Race - Fast Lap Sequence

http://resources.motogp.com/files/re...p+sequence.pdf

And Lap by Lap times, also from the race

http://resources.motogp.com/files/re...sis+by+lap.pdf

So the answer is yes, a shit load quicker, but Vale is faster also!!!!


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Default 27.06.2008, 08:32

the best Rossi can hope for is second place from every race here on until Yamaha can improve their technology. 7 tenths is a monsterous gap between 2 bikes at the end of the firs day. Remember the whole pack is back is 1 second plus in arears.....

Those that think otherwise will find out no only by the end of sunday but by summer holidays....its not a matter of being pesimistic or not believing, its a matter of reality. JB and rossi are not going to find 7 tenths to catch stoner for your living in denial if you think they are capable of that....

The rossi and JB factor is at 100% already....just look at their gap to 3rd and fourth place and you will see their influences there.....afterall dont forget rossi and yamaha have to remain diplomatic and have to paint a positive spin on things but if you read into his comments you will see that he himself suggests 2nd is all they will get and it wont be long before stoner passes him in the standings.

NO CHANCE OF FINDING 7 TENTHS.....would love to hear from anyone with factual points suggesting otherwise.
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Default 27.06.2008, 09:30

Rossi second but with work still to do in Assen

Fiat Yamaha Team rider Valentino Rossi returned to one of his favourite race tracks today, as the 60th Dutch TT got started in bright sunshine at Assen. Rossi won the race from 11th on the grid last year, arguably his best performance of 2007, and the Italian is keen to emulate his success with another win on Saturday. He started well today by finishing the first day of free practice in second place, although he was 0.732 seconds off Casey Stoner and will be looking to improve on this tomorrow.

This morning saw Rossi in sixth position but some set-up alterations for the afternoon session brought about a good improvement in his lap times and the Italian was one of only three riders to lap under the 1'37 mark, the others being Stoner and Tech 3 Yamaha rider Colin Edwards. Rossi lapped consistently in the high 1'36s, already well under the circuit record, but he will be aiming to shave a few more tenths off tomorrow in order to narrow the gap to Stoner. Rossi's team-mate Jorge Lorenzo meanwhile finished the day 14th in the combined standings after a difficult day in which he struggled for front-end feeling.
Valentino Rossi - Position: 2nd Time: 1'36.819 Laps: 56
"Second place this afternoon is not bad at all, considering that this morning we had some problems. This afternoon we made some modifications and we started to improve quite a bit. We are still struggling in some points of the track however and this shows in the gap that we still have to Stoner. During this afternoon's session we understood some interesting things, which we hope will help us tomorrow. Today, however, it seems like I am the leader of the 'other' championship!"
Davide Brivio - Team Manager
"This afternoon we made a good improvement to our setting compared to this morning, and our pace got better accordingly. Compared to the majority of the field in fact our pace is very good, the problem is Casey! In order to fight with him it's clear that we're going to need to work even harder and improve even more, so this is what we will do. It seems that we now have a good base setting so now we will just try to make the next step. The weather today has been fantastic - a nice change from recent races - so we hope for more of the same tomorrow so we can keep on improving."
Lorenzo lacking confidence at Assen
Despite an impressive ride through the field to sixth from the back of the grid at Donington just four days ago, it seems that Jorge Lorenzo's recent trials are not completely behind him and the Fiat Yamaha Team rookie underwent a difficult opening day at the Dutch TT. The Spaniard is struggling with front-end feeling but worst of all is lacking confidence and trust in his bike, and could only manage 14th in the combined standings today.

Lorenzo started off the day 11th in morning practice and hoped to improve further this afternoon. However this was not to be as he was only able to better his morning time by 0.027 seconds and slipped back through the order. With this being one of his favourite tracks he is doubly frustrated and is now hoping that a good night's sleep can result in a clearer head and a more relaxed frame of mind tomorrow. His team-mate Valentino Rossi fared better today and finished second but a gap of 0.732 seconds to Casey Stoner, in first place, means that he too has work to do tomorrow.
Jorge Lorenzo - Position: 14th Time: 1'37.960 Laps: 54
"It was a bad session today and I was not expecting to be so slow here, at a track that I love. We need to do more laps in order to improve and try to find a way to change things; I am suffering a lot on the bike because I don't have enough confidence in the front. I am losing time in all areas, we know the bike can be faster but I can't find the way to ride it like this. I need to have more trust in the bike, but at the moment I think the problem is me and I am just not riding as I should be."
Daniele Romagnoli - Team Manager
"Today was quite a difficult session for us. We struggled all day to find a good feeling with the front and at the moment we have too much understeer. At the same time the bike is unstable under acceleration. This afternoon we stayed on just one set of Michelin tyres for the whole session in order to just concentrate on the bike setting without worrying about the tyres. We have tried some different solutions but they didn't work. It's clear that Jorge still needs more time and more laps in order to get his confidence back and for sure tomorrow the team will do all they can to help him to enjoy riding again."
Fast start for Edwards, Toseland looking to improve
Just four days after the British GP, the Tech 3 Yamaha team was back on track in Holland today, with American
Colin Edwards immediately on the pace at the historic Assen circuit. The American posted the fourth best time in this
morning's opening free practice session and in dry but windy conditions this afternoon went one better to end the day
third quickest. His improvement by nearly 0.5s came largely thanks to a small front-end set-up modification to help
his Tech 3 Yamaha YZR-M1 turn quicker in the fast changes of direction at the Assen circuit.

On a day of impressively fast lap times, Edwards was one of only four riders to post times under the current lap
record with his best time of 1.36.931 just 0.112s away from second placed Valentino Rossi. The lap record of
1.37.106 is held on a 990cc machine from 2006, underlining just how fast the pace was today.

British rider James Toseland had a difficult start to his ninth MotoGP race as he ended the day 13th fastest with a
best lap of 1.37.838. Toseland is confident he can move up the timesheets tomorrow after a late switch to a
geometry setting, similar to that used by Edwards, helped his progress.

Tomorrow's final practice and qualifying sessions are expected to be run in dry conditions, but rain has been forecast
for Saturday's 26-lap race.

Colin Edwards 3rd 1.36.931 - 52 laps
"I'm pretty pleased with that because if you take Casey out of the equation I've got the pace to match anybody. We
made a small change to the bike after this morning because here you carry so much load you have to play with the
spring rate to get the right feeling. How my bike was set-up from Donington, it was just a bit too lazy and slow to
react around this track. There are some pretty fast changes of direction round here. I was getting it to change
direction but it was all happening a little bit too slow. My team had some good ideas to try and help the bike steer a
bit better but it didn't feel great. There was a bit too much weight on the front. I was pushing but I didn't want to push
any harder because the feel just wasn't there. We made another little change and I was straight into the low 37s and
I was on it. We then changed the front setting again and I got a lot more confidence in the front and it felt awesome. I
was never outside the top three so it is looking good. The grip feels really good and all my tyres seem pretty good so
thanks to Michelin for that. You need endurance round this track and nothing too crazy grip wise in the beginning that
might drop off. We've got a good direction but honestly if it is going to rain on Saturday I'd really like to get some rain
tomorrow. I need to sort out this year's bike for the rain. We have a year old rain setting that works good but that
setting needs to be tweaked for this year's bike. I could start the race with my old faithful rain setting and it will work,
but we can make it better after what we had at Donington in the wet."

James Toseland 13th 1.37.838 - 45 laps
"It is hard work at the moment to be honest. We wasted a lot of time and should have gone with the setting we had at
the end much earlier. Basically I've gone closer to what Colin is running but we didn't do it until too late and it was
quite a frustrating session. I got up to speed quite fast right at the end when we tried this new setting so it seems like
we have found a good direction but we wasted too much time getting there. The bike is better on the brakes because
I was losing so much rear grip on the entry of the corners that I had no corner speed with the other setting. The way
this new setting transfers the weight is much smoother and doesn't move weight off the rear as quick. With the new
setting I got straight into the 37s and I feel I could have built on that but we'd been going round in circles for too long.
I just spent too much time in the garage and when I need the track time to get the bike set-up on a track I've not
tested on, I can't afford to do that. I'm trying to learn the track on this bike so I need to be out there. Now we've got
this setting I'm confident for tomorrow that we can move forward."


Free Practice

Pos., Rider, Manu., Nat., Total Time

1, Casey Stoner, Ducati, AUS, 1'36.087
2, Valentino Rossi, Yamaha, ITA, 1'36.819
3, Colin Edwards, Yamaha, USA, 1'36.931
4, Nicky Hayden, Honda, USA, 1'37.012
5, Alex De Angelis, Honda, SMR, 1'37.126
6, Shinya Nakano, Honda, JPN, 1'37.137
7, Randy De Puniet, Honda, FRA, 1'37.187
8, John Hopkins, Kawasaki, USA, 1'37.251
9, Daniel Pedrosa, Honda, ESP, 1'37.280
10, Chris Vermeulen, Suzuki, AUS, 1'37.282
11, Andrea Dovizioso, Honda, ITA, 1'37.326
12, Sylvain Guintoli, Ducati, FRA, 1'37.357
13, James Toseland, Yamaha, GBR, 1'37.838
14, Jorge Lorenzo, Yamaha, ESP, 1'37.960
15, Loris Capirossi, Suzuki, ITA, 1'38.082
16, Anthony West, Kawasaki, AUS, 1'38.413
17, Toni Elias, Ducati, ESP, 1'38.656
18, Marco Melandri, Ducati, ITA, 1'39.020




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Default 27.06.2008, 09:30

Yes agree, Hudsonhawk. The 7tenths gap is too big unfortunatly. It also suggest Vale must ride really really really hard, like put in 200percent to have a chance to catch up with Stoner( if things improve today for Vale).

oh please.. dont wanna see Stoner win by 30secs ahead of the whole pack!
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Default 27.06.2008, 09:37

Well it's wet for 125 FP2 - they are doing 2.00 laps (yesterday was 1.45's) So anything can happen today (and the latest I saw the race is forecast to be wet also)

Enough with all the glumness.........the one certainty is that Vale will always give 100% and work with JB right up until the last second.........he didn't win 7 titles by admitting defeat after one day of practice!!!!!!

GO VALE GO!!!!!!!!!!


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Default Assen Tt..... Stunt Us Vale - 27.06.2008, 09:58

LAST YEAR ON ASSEN TT WAS AMAZING... VALE RACE LIKE THE WIND... START FROM ELEVENTH DIDN'T MADE VALE UNDER ESTIMATE..... HE FORCE STONER TO WORKED HARD TO STAY IN THE FIRST PLACE..... BUT THEN HE SHOCK THE WORLD.... HE'S THE KING, HE'S MY LOVELY.....

ASSEN TT 2008.....
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Default 27.06.2008, 10:09

Still the same scenario.
Stoner faster than anyone else.

Vale 3rd.
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Default 27.06.2008, 10:10

.........the session is only 10mins old

GO VALE GO!!!!!!!!!!!


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Default 27.06.2008, 10:11

c'mon Vale, GOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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