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Default 19.12.2007, 23:37

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MotoGP: Valentino Rossi renews criticism of rider aids
By Matthew Birt
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12 December 2007 15:05

Valentino Rossi has again slammed the growing influence of electronics in MotoGP, renewing his fears rider skill is playing less and less of a pivotal role in the premier class.

Rossi has been highly critical of rider aids and believes they are now too important and the difference a rider can make using his talent alone has been crucially reduced with a wave of new technology sweeping into MotoGP.

The Fiat Yamaha rider has called for a ban or reduction on the amount of electronics used in MotoGP, with systems like traction control becoming so sophisticated that older generation riders are finding it harder to master riding with so much non-human input.

Valentino Rossi said: “Casey (Stoner) has done an amazing job and without doubt he is a great rider. But he is the first of the traction control generation because the way he uses traction control is amazing.

“For old generation riders like me, Marco Melandri and Loris Capirossi we have a lot of problems to understand. You have to be brave to use the systems.

“It is difficult sometimes to have confidence in a system because that system is not human.

“As an old generation rider, when the engineers come to you and say you can open the throttle full when you’re knee is on the ground at 150ks in the middle of the corner, it is easy to say this from the pits.

“It is different on the bike and that is the main problem for the old generation guys. Casey believes in the system and we don’t,” added Rossi.

Read how electronics are making a difference in the World Superbike paddock in this week's MCN, availalbe from Wednesday, December 12, 2007.
Aha! It's what I told you.
Vale forgets that Casey has a different electronic package...


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Default 20.12.2007, 08:51

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Aha! It's what I told you.
Vale forgets that Casey has a different electronic package...
I don't think he forgets. He's just keeping quiet about it because he doesn't want to be fussy and i'm sure he's gonna prove that his 96% control on the bike will make him WC again. Just like when the first year he switch to yamaha when a lot said that yamaha was underpowered.

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When we think about electronics aid on a Motogp bike, we must think that the development is follow by Aerospace Engineers, it's not the electronical components of our microwave we are speaking on...

But..

The computer on our Ducati has the data selected in each session of practice (from 20gigabyte every session). The computer received additional data from the GPS system (Global Positioning System ): through a connection with 3 satellites, the computer knows by trigonometry, the exact position on track where we are.
The sensors of roll, picth and yaw give additional data too, and computer knows the situation on the three-dimensional plan (fig.)...

Next time will be a japanese robot?
Mak, Sorry for late response to this. I did not catch it on the Italian page. Is it really true that MM is using GPS tracking technology to control the map on the Ducati?. It seems impossible that MotoGP would allow that much computer control. The bike would be correcting for every mistake for the entire race. What is the sampling rate? I just cannot believe that Dorna would allow that kind of technology into any MotoGP bike. I'm just one person, but in my book it is cheating if the other riders don't have it. Of course KC's front end is always planted. That kind of technology can ensure that it is. They also have tire pressure and temperature guages in the wheels now. I'll bet that they are factoring in that data as well. It's not right. That's my oppinion. I'd rather see them race with mini bikes in a parking lot, if it is true, what you're saying.


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Default 28.12.2007, 10:45

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Mak, Sorry for late response to this. I did not catch it on the Italian page. Is it really true that MM is using GPS tracking technology to control the map on the Ducati?. It seems impossible that MotoGP would allow that much computer control. The bike would be correcting for every mistake for the entire race. What is the sampling rate? I just cannot believe that Dorna would allow that kind of technology into any MotoGP bike. I'm just one person, but in my book it is cheating if the other riders don't have it. Of course KC's front end is always planted. That kind of technology can ensure that it is. They also have tire pressure and temperature guages in the wheels now. I'll bet that they are factoring in that data as well. It's not right. That's my oppinion. I'd rather see them race with mini bikes in a parking lot, if it is true, what you're saying.
I totally agree with you. Lets bring back real racing to the sports.


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MotoGP: Colin Edwards supports growing influence of electronics


Colin Edwards believes the growing influence of electronic rider aids in MotoGP is not seriously harming the sport.
Former factory Yamaha team-mate Valentino Rossi has been one of the most vocal critics of the increased influence electronics have started to have in MotoGP.
The seven-times world champion believes electronics are now taking away from rider skill, and are making the switch to MotoGP too easy.
But Texan Colin Edwards told MCN: “For me the electronics now make it more of a team effort.
“You got the rider riding the shit out of it anyway, but you got the data guy and the traction control and the torque guy all trying to make the best situation because without those guys I’d be as slow as hell and it is a full team effort.”


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Default 01.01.2008, 19:45

Ruslan, I would kindly ask you to use the SEARCH option next time you post an article, because if you had done that THIS TIME you would have seen that THIS ARTICLE has ALREADY BEEN POSTED!!!



This is the last time I am telling you this, next time it will be deleted without any explanation!!

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Default 03.01.2008, 23:25

I found this rubbish, man where do they find these lost reports?


Electronics are to blame
Team Rossi sets out their 2008 excuse

(29/12/2007)

Multi-season loser Valentino Rossi looks ready and set to blame electronics in 2008 should he not recapture the MotoGP title.

MGPN can exclusively reveal that the gracefully fading Italian spent the off season gathering up a crack team of seasoned moaning experts to work out a contingency beef should next season once again end in tears. The elite sulksome team was reported to have included Max Biaggi's cousin, a fat person who only eats 'fresh fruit and vegetables', Foggy's ghost writer, someone from the Falklands and a cyber-geek who has secretly stored every one of Colin Edwards' excuses on a 160 terabyte hard disk somewhere in the Nevada desert.
After many hours complaining and moaning about how bad the traffic was the team finally got around to the business of deciding that electronics, namely the computer aided tomfoolery that is seen as Black Magic in the North of England, should be Valentino's premier excuse for 2008.

"We decided that electronics was the way forward for 2008" beamed one attendee "It's such a wide scope of blame. Anything from traction control to the LEDs on Rossi's key fob can be blamed for his failure and better still we already know that Ducati has the best electronics so he can use this to hollow out their victory should they win again in 2008."

There was, however, no mention of using Bridgestone as an excuse despite rumours that the Jappy tyre firm absolute hate Rossi and will be supplying him the crappiest tyres they can find in 2008.
"I've heard, and when I say 'heard' I mean read somewhere or possibly made up, that Bridgestone are furious with the whole Rossi situation" commented MGPN's super secret mole "They're angry because Dorna stated that if they didn't supply Rossi with tyres for 2008 then a single tyre manufacturer rule would be implemented – and, despite using the fairest means possible to determine the supplier, it would be Michelin
"Honestly, if Rossi doesn't get the worst tyres then my name isn't Steve Parrish" concluded our secretive mole.






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Default 04.01.2008, 10:55

now that is one provoking article....
what is going on here? is that what really happening out there b'stone??

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Default 04.01.2008, 17:27

ahh no worry
just cool down guys
u can never take serious any aricle u find on that page!!!!!!!!

it's just a joke page
and they make fun of ALL the riders

it's all fiction
and u just have to take it as a laugh!


IT'S NOT SERIOUS!!!!!!!!!!!

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ahh no worry
just cool down guys
u can never take serious any aricle u find on that page!!!!!!!!

it's just a joke page
and they make fun of ALL the riders (but the americans )

it's all fiction
and u just have to take it as a laugh!


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