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Default 19.06.2008, 04:13

Well said Tammerz, i agree 100%


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wow is right, this has become downright ugly...i'm not taking sides here but i think we all need to tap the brakes a bit, you either agree and/or care with what the fanclub said and/or did or you dont, why does it have to become a battle between members, post your opinion, and read the opinions in the spirit they were intended, AS OPINIONS!
not everyone is going to agree with your opinion, thats why its an OPINION and not a fact. But denigrating someone for their opinion is the worst kind of bigotry, and I AM NOT pointing this at anyone in particular but at all of us collectively. I care about all of you and this Forum, I hate seeing it become just like any other forum on the web. The difference in my OPINION between this forum and the rest is what i originally thought was a mutual respect for eachother and a true bond (VALE) that brought all of us together in the first place. But I'm beginning to feel that this is just like any other forum on the web. and i find that sad....

sorry this was so rambling....

okay, now that i've pissed everyone off, go ahead let me have it now




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Default 19.06.2008, 04:41

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I agree with what you say. Why attack people for the way they express themselves, why attack people because they don't conform to other's ideas of what a member of this forum should be? Why rabbit on about respect, etc, then completely disregard that when in pursuit of a personal agenda re other members of this forum? It's getting really monotonous this movement to divide this forum and to try and get rid of members because what? They aren't liked? That's pretty charmless. And petty. And nasty. And bigoted.


I'm totally dumbfounded




But, in the spirit of Vale and his positiveness, I look forward to and hope for everything to work out positively among everybody



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Default 19.06.2008, 05:48

Seriously, i don't know why you are dumbfounded.

I have always believed that people should be able to disagree without it becoming a personal vendetta. At the same time, i believe people should have the right to be themselves and not conform to what others think they should be. Have I ever deviated from this?

I wrote a post agreeing with what MAK had written. It wasn't directed at anyone on this forum, it was about the fanclub. But it seems to have been taken personally, so if anyone is dumbfounded... it's me. A provocative reply is written... and a person has two choices... ignore like they have been doing, or defend. I chose the latter because I'm sick of this bullying. I don't make any claims on perfection. All I ask is that we give each other some lattitude to have some flaws, have some differences, without it being a big f**king deal.

You don't like swearing... so what. Is that worth having a fight over? Or is it more than swearing?



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Default 19.06.2008, 10:34

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I'm totally dumbfounded




But, in the spirit of Vale and his positiveness, I look forward to and hope for everything to work out positively among everybody

It really is incredible isn't it!

But yes, Jossik, it seems there is now a chance that things are going to be so much better from now on. All sweetness and light. Won't that be nice.
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Default 19.06.2008, 11:14

Yeah, here's hoping.



It's taken one and a half racing seasons, but finally, Rossi has broken Stoner... and smashed him like a guitar!

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Default 19.06.2008, 19:19

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My reasoning is this: Official or otherwise, nothing is going to change.
Hurling abuse at the Fan Club serves nothing at all but makes us all look bad.
Why can't we just forget about it and move on?
Makes you look bad? Us?
No.

The fanclub don't cares italian fans, and you think they will care a fan from where....ah..cambridgeshire...they don't know where are the town outside 150km more, from Tavullia!!!!!

And why do I have ( I say "I" as "we") a good look for the fanclub?
They are giving any money? Are they running very fast to Valentino saying:"Mak is bad!!"??

Will the forum suffer a bomb-action by George Dabliu??

Bullshits....


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Default 19.06.2008, 19:34

Mak, can i ask...Uccio, does his father not help run the fanclub??? if so, then surely Vale must be aware of how things are run in the fanclub, and the attitudes of the staff running it.... Without the fans, these sad, arrogant little people would have no "SELF IMPORTANCE".....and as a paid up member, i think i can express my opinion.



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Default 19.06.2008, 19:57

For me all has suddenly become very clear.
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Default 20.06.2008, 02:58

And I think the biggest problem here, from what you've said in previous posts, is this has been going on for YEARS. No wonder you're fed up and angry.

Dee asked if Uccio's father has any involvement... I have no idea... but I'm curious about those who hold positions in the fanclub. Are they elected? Or, if appointed, do they have a set term? It seems that they just need cleaning out every few years... new blood, new ideas, new attitudes. And no room for complacency or arrogance or contempt towards other fans.

cb_46 posted in the Marco Melandri thread something Marco had written on his website. A great example of entering the IT age. Why is Valentino so behind the times?

(I forgot to tick the box to quote MAK's post... but that's what I'm answering, lol.)



It's taken one and a half racing seasons, but finally, Rossi has broken Stoner... and smashed him like a guitar!

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Default 20.06.2008, 03:27

When the book "what if i'd never tried it" was written, according to Vale himself, Uccio's dad was involved in the Fan Club, what the status is now i'm not certain.



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