Mak thank you for explaining it in more detail. I was unsure if i wanted to get involved in personal disputes, but i now realise that this is not the case. I have added to the blog, and i hope with all the other members support we can get the fanclub to acknowledge our support for vale.I found TYC through the internet just like many others here.I don't have the money to be back and forth to Tavullia to see what vale is or isn't doing,and it's not like the fanclub keeps us well informed either. To think and say we don't have a life is so insulting, and down right rude. I have a family, part time job, friends and do charity work, i will always make time to see what's happening in the forum, and i make watching vale a must!! I joined the fanclub last year, and renewed my membership within the time i needed, i have not had a problem with the fanclub staff, i found them to be polite and helpful, but maybe i was just one of the lucky ones. I would have been gutted if i had been spoken to in the way the member mentioned was, it is a bad reflection on valentino, i wonder what his thoughts would be if he knew..... after all, he loves his fans, you can see that when he's in his garage smiling at crowd there to support him!!!!!!!!!!!!!

well said dee, i think that vale would take a personal interest in how fans are treated if he knew how things were being handled.

50% o pos.. 25% castrol R..15% chocolate 10% champange! and its bright yellow !

is that dark chocolate, milk chocolate or white chocolate, and is it dom perignon or krug?

nutty praline type (definetly nutty!) and ive just found out that its not champange ..sorry ..its chicken soup! easy mistake!

champagne chicken soup, i can see how you could confuse the two, and nutty is spot on...lol

it should be nutty46

Well it's much appreciated Steve

Mmmmm...I'm very happy you can read my english and understand what I mean.

Now I wish tell you what I think.

For many years I was the only admin and mod in the best forum of Vale's fans, in the best site of Vale's fans (rossifumi.it.....8-7 years ago..).
But the fight was and is now the same: the fanclub lives for ...the fanclub!

This time someone called me after two years I had left the forum ( this is I think the 5th version of it) cause I understood the fight against Fanclub's thinking was lost.
But someone called me cause here, especially the italian room, needs an help.
It's not important for me if I am an admin or nothing, if the forum is official or not.
The question is: it's correct that in the fanclub they never care the internet fans of Vale?
It's correct that the fanclub has priorities like "corporate image", "media image", "leaders transfers to the tracks"?
Where is "people" priority? In the 10th place?

Now there's a big fight in the blog and the way they are walking it's the same from 10 years ago. "we are not interesting by the web".
But the correct message is "we are not interesting by the people...unless the join to the fanclub" and also "we are the official fans, from the same village where Vale is from...you are fans of the 2nd choice".

How can you explain more.....I was close to Vale from a long time. The fanclub changed a lot. In 1996 I was one of the fans from outside Tavullia. The fanclub was growing by the liking. Now it's often only a justification for someone to pose as a star!

All that you believe that it's not important, it's stupid, it's negative in this fight between fanclub and our forum ( as was coming in the past, everytime, every forum...), I'm with you: those are bollocks!

But "people" must be the 1st priority, must became 1st priority.

Some ninny, from a very small village, the education close to null, can't say "people from the web they are only stupid freaks".
"People" is many different kinds of persons.
They must understand it or the motogp's world they must know why they don't want understand it.





(..and I don't want write what the rider thinks about some facts it happened and it happens also...it's better that the rider can know only a little part, what's happening normally)